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What does the Wii U system update do?

System updates for 3DS and Wii U this morning

Those of you have have a Wii U or a 3DS may have performed a Wii U System Update this morning but what does it do?

Well, according to Nintendo the Wii U updates the console's hardware to version 2.1.0 which adds "further improvements to overall system stability" while "other minor adjustments have been made to enhance user experience."

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On our connection it took 50 minutes to perform the System Update on Wii U.

We've seen reports that the Wii U update makes applications faster but we've seen no evidence of this so far.

Have you spotted anything different after updating your system?

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  1. Wiimote Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 10:48

    What about the 3DS update?

  2. deKay Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 10:55

    My Wii U exploded.

    (it didn't really).

  3. PreownedPK Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:00

    15 mins update for me & seems quicker ...

  4. K-tet Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:02

    I'm sure we'll find out what the updates are for during the Nintendo Direct broadcast later on this afternoon.

    Updating the 3DS didn't take that long (about 2 minutes). I'll update the Wii U soon. I'll edit this post as to how long it took me.

    Edit: Turns out it does update in the background automatically. I have an estimated 10 minutes to go and it's 75% complete. 50 minutes to an hour sounds about right. I powered my Wii U on at 10:15 this morning.

    Also, I like how the Download Management arrow animates when you do have something downloading from the Home Menu. It's always the subtle things with Nintendo that make them refreshing.

  5. 5OUNDWAVE Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:03

    mine only took about 10 - 15 min's and it was at 6 in the morning , i've noticed no difference either

  6. 5OUNDWAVE Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:26

    also my 3ds update was instant

  7. K-tet Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:47

    Perhaps we're just being idiots. Remember that Nintendo of America promised an update to fix the random crashing (which many had experienced whilst playing Nintendo Land)? As I said before in another topic, I've had my Wii U crash just once through my own impatience of loading Miiverse from the off. I think the two are related and it's a Miiverse issue.

    What I can tell you is that the update is 625MB in size.

  8. deKay Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:48

    On my home connection, 625MB is 14 hours. Sigh.

  9. 5OUNDWAVE Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 11:55

    my crashed playing the fifa 13 demo and was making this crazy noise , a couple of my wii's have done this in the past 2

  10. lminett Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 12:05

    The update has decreased loading times, logging in, going onto the e shop, miiverse all that is much faster now

  11. deKay Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 12:20

    The update has decreased loading times, logging in, going onto the e shop, miiverse all that is much faster now

    Strange how all the games news sites are suggesting it doesn't speed up anything, and in some cases, slows it down.

  12. choclate-milk Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 12:26

    The 3DS update was just to block more flashcards, as far as I know. There doesn't seem to be any other changes.

  13. ledreppe Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 13:04

    The 3DS update was just to block more flashcards, as far as I know. There doesn't seem to be any other changes.

    Yeah that's what I was thinking when I clicked on confirm to install the update.

    One thing about the Wii U update that hasn't been mentioned is that it now allows you to format and use a 3TB usb hard disk. I've been eagelry awaiting this promised update so that I can finally use my 3TB drive . 3TB drives weren't supported in the version 2 update on day 1, only up to 2TB. Be warned though, you are only able to format to 2TB so you'll loose a 1/3 of your 3TB drive :x !

    I don't know if it's something I did, but I had to redownload uPlay and my eShop download Trine 2, as it somehow disappeared from the Wii U's internal flash memory after I formatted the hard drive, strange.

  14. Henertee Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 13:17

    My Wii U freezes when the menu opens and makes a horrible noise. It's going to have to be sent off to be repaired. Apparently I'm not alone...

  15. deKay Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 13:22

    I don't know if it's something I did, but I had to redownload uPlay and my eShop download Trine 2, as it somehow disappeared from the Wii U's internal flash memory after I formatted the hard drive, strange.

    Probably because they were on the drive, not the flash!

  16. ledreppe Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 14:13

    I don't know if it's something I did, but I had to redownload uPlay and my eShop download Trine 2, as it somehow disappeared from the Wii U's internal flash memory after I formatted the hard drive, strange.

    Probably because they were on the drive, not the flash!

    My usb drive wasn't working before the update, if you read my comment properly you'd have known this.

  17. K-tet Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 14:42

    3TB drives weren't supported in the version 2 update on day 1, only up to 2TB. Be warned though, you are only able to format to 2TB so you'll loose a 1/3 of your 3TB drive :x !


    Well... your explanation's off. You don't magically lose a Terabyte of storage just because the Wii U formats a 3TB to 2TB. If you decide to use the same 3TB drive for Windows, once it's formatted for use in Windows, it'll see it as a 3TB drive. There was a discussion before based on how the embedded firmware doesn't support anything more than 2TB due to the way the code was written. Nintendo can correct this in a future firmware update, but let's be honest, 2TB is overkill by every standard. It's enough for 80 full 25GB games.

    The Wii U update improves performance for Wii U application loading times (not disc loading times, that's the fault of the developers) and fixes Miiverse crashes, as well as allowing the system to see hard drives bigger than 2TB (but again, only allowing them to be formatted to 2TB). As far as the 3DS update goes, as people say, probably just to block Flash Cards.

  18. wolfboy300 Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 15:25

    I have a problem guys...

    My WiiU got switched off (because of electricians, but mainly my fault for making it do a system update) and now it won't turn back on.

    What do I do? The Gamepad's fine, of course, but the console isn't.

  19. deKay Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 15:44

    I have a problem guys...

    My WiiU got switched off (because of electricians, but mainly my fault for making it do a system update) and now it won't turn back on.

    What do I do? The Gamepad's fine, of course, but the console isn't.

    Send it back. That's all you can do.

  20. K-tet Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 15:48

    It lost power during the update? Losing power during the update leads to the system being bricked. I hope that's not the case, but if it has been bricked, you've basically got an expensive paperweight.

    I'm sure we can help you here, but first we'll need answers to the following questions (assuming the system is bricked):

    1. Where did you buy your Wii U from?
    2. Do you have insurance for the system itself?
    3. Do you still have proof of purchase for the Wii U (i.e. any receipts, invoices etc)?

    Game for example offer GameCare, so any problems incurred accidentally (such as loss of power) means GameCare covers you for that. Just return the system fully boxed, with the insurance documents and the proof of purchase to the store you bought it from, explain to them the situation, and they will advise you on what to do. Usually they'll take the system from you and send it off to be repaired. If the system cannot be repaired, they are obliged under the Sales of Goods Act 1979 to either replace the system with a working like-for-like replacement, or reimburse you fully for the purchase.

    It should also be noted that all electrical appliances (including games consoles) come with a standard one year warranty, so if you don't have any insurance, you'll need to contact Nintendo Customer Support and explain to them the situation. All you then need is the proof of purchase and the system itself, and they'll advise you on how to send it to them and they'll attempt to fix it. If they can't, they are obliged to either send you a working like-for-like replacement, or reimburse you fully (less courier fees if applicable) for the purchase.

    Hope this helps.

  21. ThePokekid78 Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 16:38

    Nice to see that Nintendo aren't hanging around with fixing the software issues with the Wii U!

    As for the 3DS...well, I deliberately still haven't updated it since that update that fixed the Mario Kart 7 glitch on Wuhu Mountain! I like that glitch, and don't want to lose it! :lol:

  22. Smyrlie Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 16:49

    I have a problem guys...

    My WiiU got switched off (because of electricians, but mainly my fault for making it do a system update) and now it won't turn back on.

    What do I do? The Gamepad's fine, of course, but the console isn't.

    This happened to me a couple of days ago when I turned it off while Miiverse was loading. I just unplugged all the wires at both sides, waited a couple of minutes and plugged them back in. It may not work for you because you turned it off during the update but it's worth a try before you send it back. Hope this helps.

  23. chojin Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 16:51

    ......

  24. chojin Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 16:56

    Mine download (DL) went on in the back ground of playing Nintendo Land, went to the DL manager tapped the update once it had finished and it said it will apply it once the system had been rebooted. So I rebooted and get an error on my GamePad (GP) saying there was no WiiU console in range and to power off the GP and try again closer, the Blue light was on the WiiU but there was not TV signal for it. Rebooted again and again and again approx 30min later I still had nothing, so I started to get Twitchy Bum Syndrome so started to call Nintendo Customer Service, while queuing to speak to someone and listening to Zelda music I rebooted again and this time it came on. Its been applying the update now for 60min +. So I'm unsure if I should reboot again ???

  25. chojin Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 18:33

    OK, the update is still applying, well I think I just have the White Back Ground and the WiiU logo bottom right thats now 2h 30mins +

    How long did it take for the second update to apply everyone ?

    HELP

  26. liveswired Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 21:30

    What about the 3DS update?

    Bugger all. Another basic anti piracy update I suspect. We still have the <deleted> looking 3DS eShop. Disappointing yet again Nintendo. I've just deleted Nintendo Video, sick of that worthless pile of badly designed <deleted> using up space and replaying low resolution videos I've watched months ago.

    Get to it Nintendo - 3DS users should have a Youtube 3D app AND iPlayer Support by now. Also the web browser may as well be disabled considering it is useless.

  27. liveswired Wednesday 5th Dec 2012 at 23:21

    It lost power during the update? Losing power during the update leads to the system being bricked. I hope that's not the case, but if it has been bricked, you've basically got an expensive paperweight.

    I'm sure we can help you here, but first we'll need answers to the following questions (assuming the system is bricked):

    1. Where did you buy your Wii U from?
    2. Do you have insurance for the system itself?
    3. Do you still have proof of purchase for the Wii U (i.e. any receipts, invoices etc)?

    Game for example offer GameCare, so any problems incurred accidentally (such as loss of power) means GameCare covers you for that. Just return the system fully boxed, with the insurance documents and the proof of purchase to the store you bought it from, explain to them the situation, and they will advise you on what to do. Usually they'll take the system from you and send it off to be repaired. If the system cannot be repaired, they are obliged under the Sales of Goods Act 1979 to either replace the system with a working like-for-like replacement, or reimburse you fully for the purchase.

    It should also be noted that all electrical appliances (including games consoles) come with a standard one year warranty, so if you don't have any insurance, you'll need to contact Nintendo Customer Support and explain to them the situation. All you then need is the proof of purchase and the system itself, and they'll advise you on how to send it to them and they'll attempt to fix it. If they can't, they are obliged to either send you a working like-for-like replacement, or reimburse you fully (less courier fees if applicable) for the purchase.

    Hope this helps.

    You should not need to use insurance to fix Nintendo's staggering design faults. Another botched launch from Nintendo. A system bricking due to updating is quite frankly irresponsible and archaic.

    The Wii U is the final nail in Nintendo's manufacturing coffin. Nintendo have learned nothing from the 3DS disasterous launch and Wii U owners are facing months of heartache and broken promises.

    The interface alone is enough to make me shudder in disgust. A 'media center' Nintendo? It doesn't even have a decent web browser, yet alone ANY support for media playback outside of Youtube and the like.

    Hello, welcome to Wii U, it can only do 10% of the things we told you it could do.

  28. K-tet Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 00:04

    Clearly, someone with malice and disappointment that decides to quote consumer protection as a weapon to strengthen their own viewpoint really isn't worth ha'penny.

    Jog on son. Take your hate elsewhere.

  29. King Slazo Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 00:18

    While I certainly don't agree with the levels of digust shown by liveswired (no swearing btw), a system that can brick itself while left to update is, at best, moronic.

  30. MikalM Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 00:36

    My Wii U hasn't frozen or locked up since the update. Before it happened a LOT. Especially on Miiverse.

  31. deKay Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 08:20

    Sky decided I wouldn't need any internet last night, so no update (or worse, MiiVerse) for me :(

  32. deKay Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 08:26

    The Wii U is the final nail in Nintendo's manufacturing coffin. Nintendo have learned nothing from the 3DS disasterous launch

    So many things wrong with your post, but I'm going to pick on this bit of nonsense.

    "Nintendo sold its entire allotment of 400,000 Nintendo 3DS units during its February 2011 release in Japan amid reports of queue outside retailers and pre-order sellouts. The 3DS sold 374,764 units during the launch weekend of 26 February. In that week 119,591 copies of Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask were sold, making it the best-selling 3DS launch title. It was also the third best-selling title from any system in that week.

    The preview of Nintendo 3DS XL that was shown on Nintendo Direct June 21, 2012 (showing Fire Emblem: Awakening).
    Nintendo announced that first day sales for the Nintendo 3DS in the US were the largest of any Nintendo handheld device in history. According to the NPD Group, Nintendo sold just under 500,000 Nintendo 3DS units during the month of March 2011 in the US. 440,000 Nintendo 3DS units were sold in its first week of release.

    In Europe, Nintendo sold 303,000 3DS units during its first two days of its release. In the UK 113,000 3DS units were sold during its opening weekend, making it Nintendo's most successful hardware launch in the country to this day."

    (From Wikipedia)

    Best selling Nintendo handheld at launch ever? Yeah, that was "disasterous".

  33. liveswired Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 22:57

    The Wii U is the final nail in Nintendo's manufacturing coffin. Nintendo have learned nothing from the 3DS disasterous launch

    So many things wrong with your post, but I'm going to pick on this bit of nonsense.

    "Nintendo sold its entire allotment of 400,000 Nintendo 3DS units during its February 2011 release in Japan amid reports of queue outside retailers and pre-order sellouts. The 3DS sold 374,764 units during the launch weekend of 26 February. In that week 119,591 copies of Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask were sold, making it the best-selling 3DS launch title. It was also the third best-selling title from any system in that week.

    The preview of Nintendo 3DS XL that was shown on Nintendo Direct June 21, 2012 (showing Fire Emblem: Awakening).
    Nintendo announced that first day sales for the Nintendo 3DS in the US were the largest of any Nintendo handheld device in history. According to the NPD Group, Nintendo sold just under 500,000 Nintendo 3DS units during the month of March 2011 in the US. 440,000 Nintendo 3DS units were sold in its first week of release.

    In Europe, Nintendo sold 303,000 3DS units during its first two days of its release. In the UK 113,000 3DS units were sold during its opening weekend, making it Nintendo's most successful hardware launch in the country to this day."

    (From Wikipedia)

    Best selling Nintendo handheld at launch ever? Yeah, that was "disasterous".

    Nonsense? my argument is completely relevant and also nowhere in my post did I mention sales.

    Consoles that brick when updating if the power is lost is ludicrous.

    I have argued for Nintendo and their relevance in the hardware industry for the past 15 years, even when people argued they would collapse through the n64 and Gamecube era's I would point them to the staggering success of their portable consoles and how they will succeed.

    Now I look at a company suffering from their lack of foresight and delay in development in the online era.

    One and a half years on the 3DS still has a woeful, clumsy OS, an ugly eShop, a worthless web browser, basic media playback, a terrible, low quality Nintendo Video service. Nintendo promised high quality 3D Hollywood blockbusters for download in 2011, content on demand, come 2012 have any of their promises been kept? There is no Youtube App support or even iPlayer support. The games are the only reason in arguing the 3DS is relevant in a diverse market.

    Nintendo need to act - their Wii U OS experience cannot go the way of the 3DS, if they do not keep their web browser updated it may well be useless within the next year. It is no longer just about the games - they need to develop an OS that provides experiences that rival Apple, Google and Microsoft to remain truly successful. Even Sony's ancient XMB provides a fast, feature rich, seamless experience with access to a variety of diverse high quality applications and with an excellently redesigned Playstation Store you can only imagine what is in store for the PS4.

    Nintendo like to claim that their consoles are now 'media centers'; but are they? Can you play HD films from your hard drive on the Wii U? Does it support a wide range of formats? Can you connect to other devices in your home and stream content such as music from your laptop to TV via Wii U? Why do you have to reboot the console to enter 'Wii Mode'? Why does it take so long? Why is the Wii U web browser 'serviceable' at best? Is this the real approach Nintendo will make? A barely serviceable OS? If a whopping 1GB is reserved for the Wii U OS why is it so basic?

    For the success of the Wii U Nintendo need to recapture the mass market appeal of Wii, but is this possible? in a tech savvy market - is the Gamepad 'savvy' enough for the modern consumer? If I look to what the Wii U provides as a 'media center' Why would I buy one over an iPad? After all I want to do light gaming, a lot of web browsing, upload my films, pictures, video, access to cheap, diverse high quality entertainment? music? Can the Wii U meet my needs?

    The Zelda tech demo had me excited, as does the thought of Mario and Metroid HD - but that is because I am a Nintendo fanboy at heart, but I hate how Nintendo continue to provide substandard experiences outside of their games. Why can Nintendo not provide the 'Nintendo Seal of Quality' Standard to their OS and services? If they did they would have the best service available bar none.

    I think deep down everyone knows that if Nintendo do not diversify and provide an excellent, diverse online service akin to the models provided by their rivals this is indeed the beginning of the end for their console business. They are after all selling the Wii U at a loss. If they do not invest heavily in their non gaming experiences I predict that within the next five to ten years Nintendo will be the number one 3rd party on the planet.

  34. K-tet Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 23:21

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/Tomatzu/dnftt.png

    I digress...

  35. clarkee013 Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 23:33

    today's system update took ages to download about an hour for me and then about 15mins to install

    yes there are marked improvements for going INTO some applications such as Miiverse, notifications, download manager but going into the system settings is still taking 4+minutes, then to go back to the Wii U menu from ANY application is taking about 4+mins - this to me is unacceptable for a console OS.

    now to mention the ridiculous load times on games; I found the best way to get round it was to delete the game update from the first play and re-download it when I want to play again, so another 15mins or so to play a game - highly unacceptable in my book and can only liken it to the olden days of tapes and a sinclair spectrum +3 (showing my ages there eh?!)

    as much as i have remained loyal to Nintendo and never owned any other games system over the 25+ years and it really does make me sad to say it but I may be tempted to jump ship when the next gen from Sony/Microsoft comes out if it means I could get to play a game within 3mins of clicking on it!

    I'm hoping for another update to sort the rest of the "bugs" out although the argument of this "shouldn't have happened in the first place" is a reasonable one.

  36. K-tet Thursday 6th Dec 2012 at 23:54

    Clarke, you cannot expect a Nintendo firmware update to fix the loading issues for disc-based games. That's the fault of the developer (so would only be Nintendo's fault if they developed the game). The first generation of games are going to have these kinds of teething problems. Every disc-based console has had them.

    As for the System Settings issues, I've had no problems whatsoever entering in and out of them. I'm either detecting a level of unacceptable inconsistency, or a crock of bovine butt candy.

  37. Lego master Friday 7th Dec 2012 at 08:01

    System update lasted about an hour. Had no problems at all, just used the TV button to switch to the television why the console did its job. My Wii U never crashed in the first place so I can't tell if it made a difference that way, but the loading has seemed to quicken.

  38. Lego master Friday 7th Dec 2012 at 08:09

    Sorry to double post but there are some things I'd like to point out!

    an ugly eShop, a worthless web browser, basic media playback, a terrible, low quality Nintendo Video service. Nintendo promised high quality 3D Hollywood blockbusters for download in 2011, content on demand, come 2012 have any of their promises been kept? There is no Youtube App support or even iPlayer support. The games are the only reason in arguing the 3DS is relevant in a diverse market.


    An ugly e-shop is a matter of opinion.
    Many people like the design (including me) so you can't complain it looks awful, just not to your taste.
    The web bowser isn't the quickest, but still useful for looking up, for example game hints during a game, which was never possible on my PSP.
    Saying that the games are the only reason, although that's not true, the games are the most important part of a console so that's supporting the 3ds.

    their Wii U OS experience cannot go the way of the 3DS, if they do not keep their web browser updated it may well be useless within the next year


    I find all internet features, including the browser itself, perfectly fine and miles better than any PS3 internet that i've been on.
    I would have more to say, but I have to go!

  39. liveswired Friday 7th Dec 2012 at 23:02

    Sorry to double post but there are some things I'd like to point out!

    an ugly eShop, a worthless web browser, basic media playback, a terrible, low quality Nintendo Video service. Nintendo promised high quality 3D Hollywood blockbusters for download in 2011, content on demand, come 2012 have any of their promises been kept? There is no Youtube App support or even iPlayer support. The games are the only reason in arguing the 3DS is relevant in a diverse market.


    An ugly e-shop is a matter of opinion.
    Many people like the design (including me) so you can't complain it looks awful, just not to your taste.
    The web bowser isn't the quickest, but still useful for looking up, for example game hints during a game, which was never possible on my PSP.
    Saying that the games are the only reason, although that's not true, the games are the most important part of a console so that's supporting the 3ds.

    their Wii U OS experience cannot go the way of the 3DS, if they do not keep their web browser updated it may well be useless within the next year


    I find all internet features, including the browser itself, perfectly fine and miles better than any PS3 internet that i've been on.
    I would have more to say, but I have to go!

    Don't worry about double posting Lego master - my main point is that Nintendo need to go beyond lip service - they have to be exceptional on all fronts - not just the games.

    We all have our opinions on matters, some of us love Nintendo blindly and believe they can do no wrong, others like myself have a love/hate relationship due to being a Nintendo gamer since the NES.

    To me there is no avoiding the fact that the 3DS OS, feature list and browser are barely serviceable - one and a half years on - especially considering most modern devices of a similar cost offer vastly superior non gaming experiences. The PSP was released in 2004/5, a completely different era and one where using a web browser even on a phone was still a novel idea and experience - the 3DS was designed for an always connected world.

    Fast forward to 2011 on the release of the 3DS, all phones Ł60+ could access the internet, Youtube, iplayer with relative ease and access to a vast marketplace of apps via wi fi. The 3DS still can't access Youtube, only provides basic internet connectivity and while many people may just 'like' it (is just liking something enough?) - the 3DS 'e shop' is essentially a very primitive experience - and is at odds with Nintendo's design ethos. The 3DS is more than capable of Youtube 3D, iPlayer, video playback support - why won't Nintendo just work on it?

    Now.....my argument is that Nintendo need to move beyond serviceable in their OS and services to reconnect with the mass market appeal of the Wii and DS. The 'casual' gamer are now used to the seamless experiences provided by the likes of Apple and Samsung - they can access the internet with the tap of the screen, they can watch their videos, read books, play games and enjoy a fully fledged internet experience; would they be astounded by the Wii U and 3DS currently 'clunky' offerings? Granted it seems that with Wii U they are working on improving things - the 3DS has had no such luck - unless of course they are working quietly on massive updates to wow us........

    The Wii U has amazing potential - no doubt about it. But when Nintendo call it a 'media center' they need to back it up by providing nothing less than exceptional non gaming services and experiences to compete in the long term global market. :)

  40. clarkee013 Saturday 8th Dec 2012 at 01:45

    Clarke, you cannot expect a Nintendo firmware update to fix the loading issues for disc-based games. That's the fault of the developer (so would only be Nintendo's fault if they developed the game). The first generation of games are going to have these kinds of teething problems. Every disc-based console has had them.

    As for the System Settings issues, I've had no problems whatsoever entering in and out of them. I'm either detecting a level of unacceptable inconsistency, or a crock of bovine butt candy.

    well why shouldn't I expect that the games to load in a decent time if PS3 and xobox360 ones generally do, especially after the hoo-haa about the 1Gb dedicated memory for the OS and 1Gb for the games - why shouldn't I have reasonable expectations around that.

    your saying that non-Nintendo games will have these teething problems but 2 out of the 3 games I have are Nintendo (NSMBU, NintendoLand & AC3) and all of them suffer from the same poor loading times.

    I shall however be thoroughly testing and timing over the weekend to see if there are any differences in certain controls etc.

  41. Lego master Saturday 8th Dec 2012 at 07:33

    o me there is no avoiding the fact that the 3DS OS, feature list and browser are barely serviceable - one and a half years on - especially considering most modern devices of a similar cost offer vastly superior non gaming experiences.


    I see your point and it could definitely be improved, I agree. But the only times I've really required to use my 3ds internet is when I was playing a 3ds game and needed help as I was stuck on a game. For that use the online service works perfectly well. In an I-pod for example all the games on it are fun, but mainly for short bursts as they are not the fully fleshed out games you expect on a console. Because of this they need extra stuff like a good web browser to keep people entertained otherwise they'd eventually get bored of playing an app repeatedly! As the 3DS has many good games and other features it doesn't really need an amazing internet browser

  42. K-tet Saturday 8th Dec 2012 at 11:30

    well why shouldn't I expect that the games to load in a decent time if PS3 and xobox360 ones generally do, especially after the hoo-haa about the 1Gb dedicated memory for the OS and 1Gb for the games - why shouldn't I have reasonable expectations around that.


    Because whether you choose to accept it or not, everything takes time. The word 'reasonable' is open to all forms of interpretation. To me, the load times are reasonable and are fine, so it's stupidly unfair and quite ludicrous to expect everything at once when everyone knows no matter how good the technology is, it all takes time for everyone to become familiar with it. Comparing performance benchmarks with the other 7th Gen systems when they've had all that time for developers to refine and hone their craft on them is about as unfair as you can get. Every system has teething issues from the start. If you want to compare, compare them to when they were first released.

    You'll also find if you care to read my previous post again the following:

    Clarke, you cannot expect a Nintendo firmware update to fix the loading issues for disc-based games. That's the fault of the developer (so would only be Nintendo's fault if they developed the game).


    Therefore, if Nintendo games take a long time to load, whose fault is that? Reading is good, no?

    Furthermore, I've had no issues like the ones you're reporting. NSMBU for me is seamless. The only game I've experienced long loading times with is ZombiU. Hence, either there's a grave inconsistency, or I'm suspecting a crock of bovine butt candy. I'm leaning towards the latter myself.

  43. deKay Saturday 8th Dec 2012 at 13:46


    your saying that non-Nintendo games will have these teething problems but 2 out of the 3 games I have are Nintendo (NSMBU, NintendoLand & AC3) and all of them suffer from the same poor loading times.

    I think you need to send your Wii U back. The loading times on NSMBU and Nintendo Land are virtually non-existant. If you have any, your Wii U is faulty.

  44. clarkee013 Sunday 9th Dec 2012 at 22:10

    well here's some times to put my moaning into context :lol:

    Menu --> AC3 - 5mins30secs
    AC3 --> Menu - 20secs (using home button)
    Menu --> System Settings - 15secs
    System Settings --> Menu - 5mins20secs (using close button)
    Menu --> MiiVerse - 8secs
    MiiVerse --> Menu - 3secs (using close button)
    Menu --> Netflix - 4mins20secs
    Netflix --> Menu - 4mins15secs (using home button)
    Menu --> NSMBU - 4mins20secs
    NSMBU --> Menu - 20secs (using home button)

    as for sending my Wii U to the service centre it'll have to wait till after Christmas and once i've finished moving house, cant say I'm looking forward to that, had a 50% success rate with the service centre (3DS repair was swift; 1 week, Wii system transfer took 3&1/2 weeks before they even sent it back and took 3 phone calls to chase them)

  45. deKay Monday 10th Dec 2012 at 08:56

    Yep - looks like yours is faulty. No transition from anything to anything takes more than 10-15 seconds on mine. I don't have ACIII to compare loading times, but all reports say it's faster than on the 360.

    Which is should be - the read speed of the Wii U's drive is much higher than the 360.

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